tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post4463181873260560054..comments2023-08-20T07:06:14.115-04:00Comments on Thurber's Thoughts: The story behind the story...Maggiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-25443884445703956522007-08-23T08:43:00.000-04:002007-08-23T08:43:00.000-04:00lol, Chad...that's what 13 years in politics in To...lol, Chad...that's what 13 years in politics in Toledo gets ya!Maggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-35553106949024458842007-08-23T08:28:00.000-04:002007-08-23T08:28:00.000-04:00ChadChad <---- bows to the master, Ms. Maggie :-)Chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06994015303281337316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-27762727290096719812007-08-23T06:38:00.000-04:002007-08-23T06:38:00.000-04:00"The sad part is that even Ashford, in his morning..."The sad part is that even Ashford, in his morning interview on WSPD, couldn't give a valid reason for why this change needed to take place."<BR/><BR/>My guess is that there was no valid reason and, for Mike to actually tell the truth about this would probably sound so juvenile and petty it would be too embarassing for him.<BR/><BR/>Council must think we enjoy paying them to squabble, backstab, jocky for power and position, namecall and whine while nothing of substance ever gets accomplished.-Sepphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11187463448901564093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-88901333909511847692007-08-22T20:20:00.000-04:002007-08-22T20:20:00.000-04:00I agree, Hooda. Are you taking bets for how long ...I agree, Hooda. Are you taking bets for how long this "alliance" lasts???Maggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-5627672364567498812007-08-22T20:12:00.000-04:002007-08-22T20:12:00.000-04:00With the deep divide and the equally deep politica...With the deep divide and the equally deep political wounds within the "A" and "B" dem factions, this has the makings for a nearly two-year long dem battle/war, if the recall drive fails, which it likely will, unless the true number of signatures has been deliberately/carefully hidden and/or misreported.<BR/><BR/>And what an "interesting" two years that is likely going to be.<BR/><BR/>Redfern may live rue the day that he strong-armed this deal together. . .Hooda Thunkit (Dave Zawodny)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13176392380086227377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-18897756357106730602007-08-22T16:00:00.000-04:002007-08-22T16:00:00.000-04:00Frank - I agree that concern over the recall was a...Frank - I agree that concern over the recall was a small factor in the decision to replace Ludeman with Ashford. However, the timing was the result of the issues I've outlined, as there would be plenty of time following the certification of the petitions (if they have enough signatures) to change the president.<BR/><BR/>However, they may have been concerned about the claims of political shenanigans if they waited to see if the petitions are valid before changing the president of council.<BR/><BR/>As for the replacement of the mayor, the president of council takes over upon the certification of any recall vote (this usually happens by the first part of December). The Charter then says that:<BR/><BR/> <I>"If there is a vacancy in the office of Mayor or Member of Council at-large, an election for the unexpired term shall be held at the next general election occurring more than ninety (90) days after the date of the vacancy." </I> <BR/><BR/>This means that whatever 'general election' occurs 90 days after the vacancy, is when we'd elect a new mayor. In the meantime, Ashford would serve in that capacity.<BR/><BR/>Hope this answers your question.Maggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-70469021660294166712007-08-22T14:42:00.000-04:002007-08-22T14:42:00.000-04:00Hey Maggie I have a question for you.If Carty is r...Hey Maggie I have a question for you.<BR/>If Carty is recalled and the President of City Council takes over the role of mayor, does he finish out the rest of the term for mayor or his own term (since he was elected as a councilman)? If his term ends before the next election for city mayor, then is there a special election?<BR/>Thanks for any information!Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00257918101344948032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-64120779833677781962007-08-22T14:15:00.000-04:002007-08-22T14:15:00.000-04:00This is so stupid! How can the city council or as ...This is so stupid! How can the city council or as Ashford states<BR/>"My job is to work with the mayor to make the mayor successful on all his initiatives. At the same time, my job is to serve as a voice for the citizens," <BR/>You can't serve 2 masters. He was elected by the people to serve the people and while I somewhat agree he needs to work with Carty to help run this city properly, it should have been taking place ever since he was elected into office (whenever that was).<BR/>One other reason it may have taken so long is the fact that Carty is pretty close to being recalled and if the president of council takes that role when it happens, then the Dems keep power as oppose to a Republican.<BR/>This sounds like elementary school kids fighting on a playground over who the captains for the kickball teams should be.Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00257918101344948032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-36995365559756099302007-08-22T12:47:00.000-04:002007-08-22T12:47:00.000-04:00Thanks for your clear insight on this backstory. ...Thanks for your clear insight on this backstory. It sure helped me understand it better.Jay Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08170850586783653546noreply@blogger.com