tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post5259909405025041157..comments2023-08-20T07:06:14.115-04:00Comments on Thurber's Thoughts: What about sunshine laws?Maggiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-86546036060832458482007-01-13T12:11:00.000-05:002007-01-13T12:11:00.000-05:00Oh, I almost forgot about the (chuckle) "sunshine"...Oh, I almost forgot about the (chuckle) "sunshine" law (snicker).<br /><br />This has been evaded for decades with the rolling caucus/meeting technique.<br /><br />Major Force (MF for short) caucuses or meets with a number of parties just short of where the sunshine law kicks in and different "teammates" wander in and out, of the "rolling caucus" while the MF carefully keeps count to maintain the actual number present below the sunshine law threshold.<br /><br />Eventually, the caucus/meeting is concluded with all of the "teammates" having had participated.<br /><br />The "law" is hardest to skirt however when the number on "teammates is (2), say "P" & "T", in which case a third party has to act as the go-between, leaving "M" out of the loop...<br /><br />Did I get it just about right Maggie?Hooda Thunkit (Dave Zawodny)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13176392380086227377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-65238315988221533682007-01-13T11:58:00.000-05:002007-01-13T11:58:00.000-05:00Maggie,
"However, my personal hope is that they a...Maggie,<br /><br /><i>"However, my personal hope is that they allow Rob Ludeman to continue. He appears to be doing a good job of handling the agenda and allowing all council members to have input and follow their individual initiatives."</i><br /><br />Yes, but Rob being the dreaded republican and second to Hizzoner, puts Rob in the unique position of becoming mayor if and when the Charlatan completely freaks out, as I'm betting he will.<br /><br />This would put Toledo's rudder in the hands of a republican, which is even more catastrophic than it being in the hands of one of the other "d" factions.<br /><br /><br /><i>"But this being Toledo, my expectations is that politics will win out over good government..."</i><br /><br />Betting on a sure thing, are we?<br /><br />Of course that isn't really a bet, when it's a sure thing, is it?<br /><br />:-)Hooda Thunkit (Dave Zawodny)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13176392380086227377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-17447147842119560702007-01-04T15:08:00.000-05:002007-01-04T15:08:00.000-05:00Kate - the AG's office website has a downloadable ...Kate - the AG's office website has a downloadable handbook on the sunshine law and public records. Perhaps our city council members should acquaint themselves with it...Maggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-61392127373639517272007-01-03T21:08:00.000-05:002007-01-03T21:08:00.000-05:00"...But this being Toledo, my expectations is that..."...But this being Toledo, my expectations is that politics will win out over good government..."<br /><br />You said it all right there Maggie!-Sepphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11187463448901564093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-28361120125170900042007-01-03T17:09:00.000-05:002007-01-03T17:09:00.000-05:00Maggie, that's an interesting perspective that I h...Maggie, that's an interesting perspective that I hadn't considered as far as the legality of the Democrats meeting to discuss their "disunity" for lack of a better word.<br /><br />Rob Ludeman stayed President all of 2006, and it doesn't appear 2007 is starting out any differently. I don't feel he has been a "bad" President either but I also understand the party aspect is important to some people as well as other reasons. As you pointed out City Council is supposed to be non-partisan and once in a while they do manage to demonstrate that. I've always wondered with the charter stating it was supposed to be non-partisan why party affiliation is not removed. <br /><br />Then again I wonder things like if the Charter states clearly, "At five-thirty o'clock p.m." why Toledo City Council meetings start at 4:00 p.m.<br /><br />:-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00606533906583651054noreply@blogger.com