tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post2267539955983121327..comments2023-08-20T07:06:14.115-04:00Comments on Thurber's Thoughts: Should 'double dippers' be paid less?Maggiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-34549766792836914122009-05-12T21:53:00.000-04:002009-05-12T21:53:00.000-04:00Beware of those "DROP" programs also, Maggie. I wr...Beware of those "DROP" programs also, Maggie. I wrote about one for the Michigan State Police (link below), and I'm sure you have them in OH also. <br />JM<br /><br />http://jackmchughblog.wordpress.com/2009/04/30/why-another-budget-%e2%80%9ccrisis%e2%80%9d-excessive-state-police-bennies-among-other-reasons/Jack McHughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11996725074954365568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-84048155959834824532009-05-12T15:55:00.000-04:002009-05-12T15:55:00.000-04:00Maggie,
The problem with the budget has never be...Maggie, <br /><br />The problem with the budget has never been the double dippers, it is with money spent for the pay of city jobs that don't need to be done at any salary. <br /><br />Political featherbedding and paybacks have bloated this city's budget to the point of the Monty Python fat man. Drastic reduction in staffing is what we need to see from our leaders, and not the "wafer thin mint" of double dipper salary concessions.Timothy W Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17118861693269565715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-41201529040389172272009-05-12T12:41:00.000-04:002009-05-12T12:41:00.000-04:00BSRG - I understand your point, but think that's a...BSRG - I understand your point, but think that's a very slippery slope as well. <br /><br />What makes the younger person more 'eligible' for the job - his qualifications or his 'need'?<br /><br />Whether or not a person needs a job and has a family to feed should not be part of the decision on who is the best qualified for employment with a city.<br /><br />In following your logic, we should mandate retirement at a specific age, regardless of skills or ability, just so that younger people - or unemployed individuals - can have that position. Let's take it to an extreme and then say that such people should then be euthanized so they don't take up resources that younger people might 'need.'<br /><br />This is part of my concern - where such thinking will (il)logically lead some people....<br /><br />If you are the best person for a position, you should be hired - even if someone more needy than you is also applying.Maggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-34801065409998964722009-05-12T12:31:00.000-04:002009-05-12T12:31:00.000-04:00Here is another take. The retired person that is ...Here is another take. The retired person that is working for that government entity is taking away a paying job from a person in the workforce that is trying to raise a family. Toledo constantly cries out about brain drain, but if you keep paying the good old boys without bringing in fresh blood, you lose efficiency and new ideas.Black Swamp Road Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06103575423688515580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-14516316834968908282009-05-12T11:16:00.000-04:002009-05-12T11:16:00.000-04:00Public employees in Ohio generally participate in ...Public employees in Ohio generally participate in one of the several State of Ohio retirement programs, such as PERS, etc. Therefore, for pension purposes, these "double dippers" are working for the same employer that pays their pension.<br /><br />In the private sector, you often lose your pension if you return to work for that same employer.<br /><br />As such, let those "double dippers" get full salary and benefits, just like in the private sector. And, as is common in the private sector, let them lose their retirement benefits when they return to work for that same employer.SpeedRacerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03523492721377341767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-32379406604004076322009-05-12T10:47:00.000-04:002009-05-12T10:47:00.000-04:00Maggie,
The job/position has a wage/salary assign...Maggie,<br /><br />The job/position has a wage/salary assigned to it, which suggests that's what the job/work is valued at//worth.<br /><br />So, it should matter not, whether a person doing that job has other income any more than it should matter if they've won the lottery.<br /><br />In effect, paying the person less because in your opinion they don't need the full wage/salary is more likely an invitation to lowered performance and expectations.<br /><br />If someone chooses to spend the vast majority of their life working and earning more money rather than enjoying the fruits of their labors, it's nobody's business but their heirs and the government.<br /><br />Double dippers should be paid what the job/work is worth just the same as someone who has a life...<br /><br />That said, double dippers are crazy/greedy IMNHO.<br /><br />Even crazier if they return to the very same or similar work/position for less compensation.Hooda Thunkit (Dave Zawodny)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13176392380086227377noreply@blogger.com