tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post4624722872957286716..comments2023-08-20T07:06:14.115-04:00Comments on Thurber's Thoughts: 'For the children' - your tax dollars hard at workMaggiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-60979373756449189192008-06-25T20:43:00.000-04:002008-06-25T20:43:00.000-04:00I don't have a problem with the internships in gov...I don't have a problem with the internships in government offices. I had several interns who got credit for the work, but not a paycheck. I did provide them with a parking pass so they didn't have to pay for parking, and I thought that was very fair.<BR/><BR/>No, these kids aren't making a living wage ... where's the outrage?<BR/><BR/>And Toledo1, with the good memory about the lawn mowers ... wonder whatever happened to all those kids and mowers???<BR/><BR/>Of course, Robin hits the nail on the head ... if they don't spend the money on these kids, they'd just spend it somewhere else. Sad, very sad ... The city money for this comes from the Youth Commission budget. It's about $2 million total for the year and was one of the budget line items that I suggested could be eliminated in order to balance the budget and go without the 3/4% payroll tax.<BR/><BR/>Whatever was I thinking???Maggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-87353535593606947242008-06-25T14:15:00.000-04:002008-06-25T14:15:00.000-04:00Don't most cities have programs like this? (I kno...Don't most cities have programs like this? (I know a person who did a city government paid internship down in Texas). <BR/><BR/>I'm sure that the city would find another way to spend this money, if the internship/mentor program didn't exisit.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05966847290906915571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-65953493012592585032008-06-24T22:09:00.000-04:002008-06-24T22:09:00.000-04:00Do they get lawn mowers to start their own busines...Do they get lawn mowers to start their own businesses when their internships are finished? :)toledo1https://www.blogger.com/profile/01985755796023744571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-675208055122511282008-06-24T16:36:00.000-04:002008-06-24T16:36:00.000-04:00What ages are these "youth?" Will the be paid the...What ages are these "youth?" Will the be paid the mandatory "living wage" the city foists on private sector employers in the city? How much tax revenue will be used for their unemployment insurnace?<BR/><BR/>What if one gets hurt? How many will be walking Scout and picking up his droppings?<BR/><BR/>T AHLCynical Counselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03013429047654810331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-33090814695928660152008-06-24T13:19:00.000-04:002008-06-24T13:19:00.000-04:00At first, I was amused by the increase of these ki...At first, I was amused by the increase of these kinds of press conferences, but now they have become so absurd that they're no longer laughable. Obviously, they are intended to evoke nothing more than "good feelings". <BR/><BR/>Anyone who has the least capability of discernment at all, should be able to distinguish between that what is real and meaningful, from that which is phony and trivial. Due to unanticipated consequences this recuitment might even be harmful.<BR/><BR/>My question is this: what would happen if the media and its viewers had the guts to ignore these "non-events"? Would these things stop? <BR/><BR/>Being a mentor or having a mentor is not a problem in and of itself--it depends on the character of both the mentor and the mentoree.<BR/><BR/>Mentorship becomes a problem when people don't have and use some kind of objective method in order to test the information that's being handed down from mentor to mentoree. <BR/><BR/>So, I think Tim's right. This is a form of manipulation designed to not only manipulate people by announcing the program, but also to manipulate the youths to think like them, act like them, and to talk like them.<BR/><BR/>Besides, isn't one Carty Finkbeiner enough? Do we really need 40 youths created in Carty's image running around Toledo? <BR/><BR/>Finally, one last question concerning those who are going to be the mentors: Who were their mentors and how much of the things they are doing right or wrong came from the mentors they had?Jay Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08170850586783653546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-14802033994401077362008-06-24T10:02:00.000-04:002008-06-24T10:02:00.000-04:00Maggie,I am surprised that you do not recognize th...Maggie,<BR/><BR/>I am surprised that you do not recognize these for what they really are, local indoctrination camps. Fifty-two children in these two programs will learn this summer that "all things come from government". This lesson will serve them well as they journey down the "Road of the Victim" that seems to be the only one that the city is capable of keeping in good repair.Timothy W Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17118861693269565715noreply@blogger.com