tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post6205873730946075039..comments2023-08-20T07:06:14.115-04:00Comments on Thurber's Thoughts: If we deny it, it didn't happenMaggiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-43535807694954907122009-12-23T11:56:27.453-05:002009-12-23T11:56:27.453-05:00Michael - thank you for raising the questions abou...Michael - thank you for raising the questions about Stainbrook's contradictory statements.<br /><br />When it comes to agendas, Stainbrook is partially correct about them. Most times, agendas are published and need to be amended or modified in order to add items to them. However, voting to suspend the rules accomplishes the same thing and that is my understanding of what was done. So regardless of Stainbrook's partially correct interpretation, it's negated by the actions the body took.<br /><br />I think, however, that the agreement of just about everyong that Stainbrook will fight against his fellow Republicans to keep control is part of his overall problem. He spends way too much time fighting against fellow Republicans - often over petty perceived slights against him personally, sometimes FAR in the past.Maggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12677808307727487766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-11450079563367617272009-12-23T11:37:24.813-05:002009-12-23T11:37:24.813-05:00“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time t...“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” — Thomas Jefferson<br /><br />Dictators and tyrants rarely give up power willingly. It must be taken from them, often by force. It will be no different this time. Stainbrook is a two bit dictator who was never a Republican and he is going to fight to the 11th hour to defend his little kingdom.<br /><br />What I found interesting at the meeting is a handful of Stainbrook's cronies who showed up almost 40 minutes late and only after receiving frantic calls from Stainbrook were yelling that "we were acting like a bunch of Republicans" I guess I could be wrong, but I thought <b>all</b> of us were Republicans...at least that is what Stainbrook keeps telling us.<br /><br />I also read in the paper that Stainbrook said that somehow we could only vote or discuss items on the agenda that had already been on there without any deviation, well if that were the case then we should just crown him king forever. Why would anyone ever allow a vote to remove themselves from power? They wouldn't, if that is really how it worked he would simply never put it on the agenda and it could never be voted on and he would stay in power forever. That is the most idiotic piece of logic this guy has ever come up with.<br /><br />As if he didn't have enough contradictions in his desperate grab for power he also claimed that his side had the majority of votes and the sign in sheets would show that. Well, two things come to mind. First, why did he need a majority if we supposedly couldn't vote to remove him because it wasn't on the agenda? <br /><br />Second, If he is so certain he had a majority then why did he try and shut down our motions and not let us have a vote? If he truly had the majority he could have simply sat there quietly and let us put our motion to remove him forward and simply defeated it and to demonstrate civility and legitimacy he could have even allowed a paper ballot to show beyond the shadow of doubt he was the person still in charge. Interestingly he didn't do that and that is what the issue is at hand. He didn't have the majority and he couldn't stop our very legal and legit motion so he tried to shout us down, declare us illegal, use the cops to drag us out, delay the meeting until he could round up his cronies, etc. <br /><br />To any person willing to think and use logic, which apparently doesn't include The Blade or Stainbrook the tactics he employed stink and are deplorable. He is NOT the chairman any longer. Jeff Simpson is the rightful chairman and once we go through the painful process of forcibly removing Stainbrook from power he will be thankfully go down in history as the worst chairman in our history.Michael Templehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05723342898307266559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-87367945128330412032009-12-22T14:43:01.054-05:002009-12-22T14:43:01.054-05:00Denial may be the key word in the soon to be ended...Denial may be the key word in the soon to be ended term of Jon Stainbrook. Many in fact, have denied that Stainbrook was ever a Republican (but that's beside the point I suppose).<br /><br />It appears that reality rarely intrudes on Mr. Stainbrook and that the only view that counts is his (and of course that of his mentor in Pittsburgh), as has been proven in his sense of time when delivering paperwork and allegedly in the production of signatures for such paperwork. <br /><br />Strange that he should object to someone stacking the deck at a meeting however, as this is exactly how he came to power.Timothy W Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17118861693269565715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21829866.post-34815762607564278202009-12-22T13:02:03.033-05:002009-12-22T13:02:03.033-05:00When under the "Strong Publisher" form o...When under the "Strong Publisher" form of government, things like this pass as reality for some citizens. <br /><br />Too many people, for too many years have been reading, and believing anything published by "One of America's Newspapers" as the final word. It is certainly not!<br /><br />There are many new sources for information out there in the 21st century. Just because it is writted down does not make it true.<br /><br />Someday, the people of NW Ohio will take back the government and we can begin to move forward.Romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07016139270835685661noreply@blogger.com